vice president joe biden, he met with him today, also with the house democrats to get their input. but other congressional members say they don't believe any gun control bill will pass. really? senators kelly ayotte, also chuck grassley and angus king all say they're just willing to listen. and representative phil gingrey of georgia agrees. now, these are the people who get to vote on any kind of gun measure. but they're just waiting around, waiting to be impressed i guess with what somebody is going to show up with. senator john mccain took it a step further, saying congress should not and will not vote on an assault weapons ban. isn't that encouraging? he thinks it's just not going to happen. so why go ahead and bother. you mean to tell me we can't even go back to where we were? senator joe manchin of west virginia went on cnn to talk about bipartisanship yesterday. he ended up taking a totally partisan stance on an assault weapons ban. >> just get a yes or no possibly. an assault weapons stand alone ban. >> a assault weapons ban, on just guns alone will not in the political real